HYMN 591 Savior like a Shepherd Lead Us - Tune RHUDDLAN

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I have a question about the tune RHUDDLAN.
The following info is on your site.
Tune Information:
RHUDDLAN is a traditional Welsh tune used by harp-playing folk musicians. Named after the historic village in northern Wales, the tune was published in the musical edition of Edward Jones's Musical and Poetical Relicks of the Welsh Bards (1800).
I have looked for this tune in the above mentioned edition and find only the Morva Rhuddlan (The Marsh of Rhuddlan) listed on page 143 of the book. This however, is not the tune.
I have entered here information from the Welsh Biography Online, which shows that the RHUDDLAN hymn tune was composed by John Evans b 1770
EVANS , JOHN ( 1770 - 1851 ), land surveyor, schoolmaster, and musician ; b. at Rhuddlan, Flints. His father was parish clerk of Rhuddlan , and the son followed the same occupation for a while. When 16 years old he opened a school to which pupils came from considerable distances to receive instruction in arithmetic and navigation . He published two works called Cyfrifydd Parod (i.e. ready reckoner) — the one for the use of persons buying and selling grain, the other for use in measuring timber and haystacks. He was a good musician and played the ‘cello in church . His anthem ‘ O deuwch i'r dyfroedd ,’ and his hymn-tunes ‘ Myfyrdod ’ and ‘ Rhuddlan ,’ became popular. He prepared a work on ‘ Thorough Bass ’ and collected together some hymn-tunes for publication , but all these were lost on their way to the printer . He d. 31 March 1851 .

As John Evans is an ancestor of mine I am anxious for clarification.
Many thanks in anticipation of your answer.


Comments

We can change the tune info for you, but we need some clarification. When you searched for the tune in Jones's book, were you searching by title, by the actual melody (under a different name, possibly), or both? I only ask because sometimes when a secular or folk tune is adopted into Christian hymnody it is given a different tune name, thus it would be known to hymnal editors as RHUDDLAN but in Jones's book it might appear with a different name or title. Also, we need you to verify that you checked the 1800 edition and not an earlier one.

It's good that you are double-checking this information, because many hymnological errors are passed from one editor to another without consulting the primary sources. Bravo for your diligence.

Do you have any knowledge of the tune's publication history? If it isn't in Jones's book, then people will want to know how it came to be printed.

By the way, the tune AR HYD Y NOS also appears in the Jones collection, p. 56 in the 1784 edition.

Chris Fenner