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When I attempt to Log In on the Hymnary.org wiki, I am told there is no user by my name. I would like to participate there, but can't until it recognizes me. Please tweak it so it recognized Leland_aka_Haruo as per my registration on the main Hymnary.org site, or tell me what I'm doing wrong (I can't see anything).

You can see the error message Special Page I get here.

Thanks!


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Leland,

At the moment we are using the wiki to write and edit the hymnary editing manual. It's not open for other users.

Were you hoping to contribute to the writing of the manual, make comments, or something else?

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Harry Plantinga
CCEL Director

Hi Harry,

Thanks for getting back to me. Here's what I just sent (email) to Dianne Schapiro and Greg Scheer:

>Hi Dianne (and Greg),
>
>I don't recall what if anything I was going to edit (if anything, it might have been a typo I noticed), whatever I was thinking at the time was thoroughly effaced by the Wiki's request that I Log in by using my hymnary.org user name and password (which I did) and then its bald assertion that such a one as I did not exist.
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>As a Wikipedia editor of long standing, and a participant in a number of other hymnic wikis such as Oremus and hymnwiki.org, the main point of a wiki is, I think, to facilitate user editing. Harry Plantinga invited me to join the work there, and yet until the wiki acknowledges my existence I don't really feel like I'm there yet, regardless of whether at the moment I have anything in particular in mind to edit.
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>From perusing what I have so far of your materials, it looks to me like I probably will be able to make substantive (if not substantial) and useful contributions. Once I'm admitted.
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>If there is some additional hoop one must jump through, some credential that is a prerequisite to participation, I would think a word to that effect, as distinct from the simple claim that one does not exist or has misspelled one's clearly correctly spelled Login name, would be preferable.
>
>So let me know what else I need to do, or know, to participate effectively. Thanks!
>
>Leland_aka_Haruo
>

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dianne Shapiro
>>Sent: Jul 20, 2009 5:41 AM
>>To: leland@fremontbaptistchurch.org
>>Cc: greg@gregscheer.com
>>Subject: Re: [Hymnary Feedback] Inability to log in to Wiki
>>
>>Hi Leland,
>>
>>You should be able to access the Wiki and read what is on it without logging in. Logging in allows you to edit what is there. Did you want to edit something?
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>Dianne Shapiro
>>Hymnary Volunteer Coordinator

The main page invites one to "visit our wiki", and then the wiki invites one to log in by using one's hymnary.org username. There is no mention of the fact that only a limited few have login rights. Such a limitation is not unreasonable, but if I were you I'd mention it upfront so people don't have to go through the rather time-consuming and worrisome few days' correspondence-and-waiting that I've just experienced. And I would change the message to those who try what I did so it no longer appears to deny that their hymnary.org username is valid. "Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing" is a valid scriptural principle, but this is not an appropriate application ;-)

In future if I see something in the wiki that needs tweaking I'll mention it here on the forums. Maybe I'll run again across whatever it is I was going to fix on my first visit...

Leland aka Haruo

Leland,

I'm sorry about the confusion. I am informed that all hymnary.org users were supposed to be able to log in to the wiki. However, a bug prevented you from doing so: our content manager system allows login names with an underscore ("_") but the MediaWiki software does not. Until this bug is fixed, you'll have to change your user name (perhaps change the underscores to spaces) before you can log in to the wiki.

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Harry Plantinga
CCEL Director

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