ROCK OF AGES >> TOPLADY, ¿no?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 11:36 — Haruo

Why does the top result here say "ROCK OF AGES", when everywhere else it's called TOPLADY? There's another ROCK OF AGES in the list (Dykes, 1 instance, and I'm about to add a second instance and also will be moving one of the instances of FAITH (Dykes) to ROCK OF AGES (Dykes), because it's not the same tune as FAITH, which is CM) and I'm in the process of adding another (ROCK OF AGES (Cornell)). And while we're at it, the same glitch is probably to blame for the same results list calling REDHEAD NO. 76 "PETRA"...

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Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:40 — dianneshapiro

Toplady

What did you search? If you searched "Rock of Ages" as a tune, it is returning results for "Rock of Ages." The authority tune name for the tune by Hastings is TOPLADY because that is what most hymnals call it, but not all of them - some don't have tune names.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 19:21 — Haruo

I didn't search for anything

I just clicked (on the "Rock of Ages" text authority page) where it says "All tunes published with 'ROCK OF AGES'" -- below and to the left of the pie chart (which calls them TOPLADY and REDHEAD NO. 76).

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 08:45 — dianneshapiro

Rock of Ages

Okay, I see what you mean. It bothers me too. The program seems to choose the most obscure name it can find to display.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 10:32 — Haruo

I've been using that link

...the one that says "All tunes published with 'Such and so'"... a lot to try to identify existing tune authorities that I should be linking the various "Barnby's Hymnary, Tune No. xyz" tunes (as well as, less frequently, similar tune "names" from the Sarum Hymnal or the Anglican Hymn Book) in EHT1880 to. So far I have done the tunes for hymns #1-#15 and most of those between #134 and #200. The way the link acts at "Rock of Ages" is by far its weirdest behavior so far; but there is (to me unaccountable) variation in the way it works. I wonder if it will behave equally bizarrely with another similarly alias-replete tune like what I grew up calling "CRUSADERS' HYMN" (aka "ST. ELIZABETH", aka AJALON...)

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:30 — Haruo

Similar case

Something similar happens when the text in question is "Sun of my soul": See screenshot and note the two items called "[Sun of my soul, thou Savior dear]". The first, with 6 instances, is actually ABENDS (and shown as such on the pie chart); the second is actually KEBLE (Dykes), subsumed on the pie chart under "Other" though now that I've added a second instance maybe it will get its own slice of the pie in a day or so...

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 02:10 — Haruo

And another

Same sort of thing with "A Great and Mighty Wonder": What is normally (and on the pie chart) called ES IST EIN' ROS' is called ROSA MYSTICA in the "All tunes" results; and the most common tune, normally called ST. HILDA (Knecht), is called KOCHER.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 09:09 — dianneshapiro